Heard it from the horses mouth at our last Democamp in Calgary. IE8 will have no CSS3 support at all.
It's pretty disappointing that after all this time MS is still working on "perfecting" their CSS2 support before even looking at CSS3.
@Marin: Um, that's the second link I have in the article.
@Travis: Yeah, I keep hearing the same thing. I just keep hoping for a surprise each time a beta gets released.
Maybe it's time for them to adopt Webkit. Nah, that would be far too convenient for us :)
Until Microsoft provides an auto update mechanism for their browsers like everyone else does, we will always be stuck without border-radius at least in some respect.
I'm hoping Microsoft adds that to IE8 as well as all the other updates we need.
@Robert: there's no reason why you can't add rounded corners to your site now - progressive enhancement seems to be the nom de jour for such things. Your site will look great in Safari and Firefox 3 and slightly less so in other clients.
As for rolling out IE updates, the IE team doesn't quite know what to do. Apparently they copped a lot of flak from customers after making IE7 a high priority update and, while they want IE8 out there as quickly as we do, there's really no nice way of getting it out there en masse.
I'd be happy if border-radius would pass the w3v's validator already ;(
@Travis - "IE8 will have no CSS3 support at all." ... yikes. I hope msft decides to rethink this one.
Unfortunately after IE Chats with Chris Wilson/Eric Lawrence/others... rounded corners will **not** make it into IE8 for sure.
Both versions use VML, thus both will need to be adjusted to work in IE8 Standards Mode.
Since IE8 tries to do the standards thing, you need to have an import statement to use the v: namespace.
See bug reports:
@steve, those URLs are helpful... even encouraging, if I dare say so. I'll look into it.
@Drew - You could probably also mix Opera support in via SVG if desired, ala Dave Storey's implementation here:
@Chris Lienert - That's exactly what I'm doing (particularly on admin pages). The whole design looks great in FF & WK, but *really* clunky in IE. Which is the right message we should be giving: Stop using legacy code - it look crap, because it *is* crap!
It's been a very effective motivator for getting customers to move to a more secure/standards compliant browser.
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